GIGABYTE GA-J1800N-D2H Review: Dual Core Bay Trail-D at $69by Ian Cutress on December 26, 2014 11:00 AM EST
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Our recent review of the HP Stream 11 by Brett Howse, featuring a dual core Bay Trail-M, made me wonder about the utility of such a desktop system with Bay Trail-D. Despite testing the J1800N-D2H earlier in the year but not writing a review, I thought it best to polish of the data and see if it still relevant alongside the $200 offerings and worth the potential extra cost for a full build to fill out a motherboard in exchange for the potential extra functionality (2T2R WiFi rather than 1T1R, SATA drives rather than eMMC).
The 10W Celeron J1800 SoC sits at the bottom of Intel's Bay Trail-D range, featuring a dual core with a 2.41 GHz base allowing a turbo mode up to 2.58 GHz with dual channel memory at DDR3-1333.
|Intel Bay Trail-D|
|Base Frequency / MHz||2410||2410||2000||2000||2410||2410|
|Turbo Frequency / MHz||-||2580||-||2420||-||2670|
|TDP||10 W||10 W||10 W||10 W||10 W||10 W|
|Tmax / ºC||100||105||100||105||100||105|
|Integrated Graphics||HD (Bay Trail)|
|IGP Frequency / MHz||688||688||688||688||688||688|
|IGP Turbo / MHz||750||792||792||854||792||896|
In terms of competition, AMD's Kabini launch in the middle of the year was a direct competitor to Intel's Bay Trail-D line, offering 25W socketable APUs with better graphics and DDR3-1600 memory, albeit single channel.
|Intel Bay Trail-D vs AMD Kabini|
|Sempron 2650||Sempron 3850||Athlon 5150||Athlon 5350|
|TDP||10 W||10 W||25 W||25 W||25 W||25 W|
|Tmax / ºC||105||105||90||90||90||90|
|Integrated Graphics||HD (Bay Trail)||HD (Bay Trail)||R3||R3||R3||R3|
AMD also competed on price, offering a motherboard and APU combo in the $65-$110 range, depending on a dual core or quad core configuration. For a comparison point the J1800N-D2H on review today retails for $69. You can read our review of the Kabini APUs here.
Back to the comparison, in terms of on paper performance the HP Stream 11 is a little down in terms of base frequency and DRAM, though does benefit from the mobility aspect, a lower TDP and the stress free 'purchase and use' that you don't get with a self-build system. That being said, a system integrator may be able to provide something very competitive.
|Intel Bay Trail-D vs Bay Trail-M|
|HP Stream 11
|TDP||10 W||7.5 W (4.5 W SDP)|
|Tmax / ºC||105||105|
|Integrated Graphics||HD (Bay Trail)||HD (Bay Trail)|
GIGABYTE J1800N-D2H Overview
Similarly to our review of the HP Stream 11, at such a low price point for an integrated system, we shouldn't expect much from the J1800N-D2H. Technically the SoC from Intel has a tray price of $72, making the motherboard worth $3 below zero. At a 10W TDP for the SoC, the motherboard combination comes with a passive heatsinks, two SATA 3 Gbps ports, a single USB 3.0 port, a Realtek network and ALC887 audio solution and a PCIe 2.0 x1 for good measure. This last factor limits some upgradeability, especially in the graphics or connectivity department but there is a mini-PCIe for a WiFi card (though this is a separate purchase).
On the layout side of the equation for the motherboard itself, the main power connector and front panel header is on the edge of the motherboard, although the mini-PCIe slot, a fan header and the two SATA ports might be compromised by any large PCIe x1 card being used.
Trying to match the HP Stream 11's price point, including a display and keyboard/mouse is tough, and when the 12 months of Office 365 is factored in, impossible unless you get most of the components from old builds or a number of refurbished parts. The big plus with going through a desktop route would be storage, allowing for a good SSD or two and potential of 8GB DRAM, though as we add in a case/power supply the overall cost might hit $200 before the display/mouse/keyboard is taken into account. I once purchased a 1024x768 VGA display for £15 delivered from eBay last year, so going down that route might be feasible. The laptop is more portable however. But desktop computing on the cheap (with more storage space) is possible with something like the J1800N-D2H.
At the sub $100 price point, it can start to get difficult to differentiate products in terms of design. When every penny goes towards functionality or research, especially on a small motherboard, it helps to start on the right foot in terms of layout. GIGABYTE take the 10W J1800 processor and understandably fit it with a passive heatsink, and due to the flexible nature of soldered-on processor-based motherboards, there is no visible x-y dimension restriction.
There are still fan headers on board in order to create a cooler system environment – the CPU fan header is a three pin in white to the left of the heatsink, and the other fan header on board is a four-pin SYS next to the SATA ports at the bottom. The power connectors are found at the top, including a 4-pin CPU power connector. The top of the motherboard also houses an LPT header near the rear panel and a COM header.
As Bay Trail-D is limited to 1333 MHz memory frequency, manufacturers do not have to adhere to XMP profile design, or limit themselves to full-sized DIMM slots. Here GIGABYTE has equipped the J1800N-D2H with two SO-DIMM slots, with the upper flipped around due to the dual channel nature of the SoC. The use of SO-DIMMs also helps keep the overall z-height down.
At the bottom of the motherboard there is a mini-PCIe for users to add in a WiFi module, the two SATA 3 Gbps ports from the SoC, and a PCIe 2.0 x1 slot that is not open ended. Typically these systems are not designed for discrete GPUs, and the chipset limits the GPU to an x1 prompting a severe bottleneck. In before ‘how about a GTX980?’! However, some PCIe 2.0 x1 GPUs do exist if extra functionality is needed.
Audio and network are supplied by Realtek, with the J1800N-D2H using an ALC887 on the former. Given that the SoC is a sizable chunk of the cost of this motherboard (assume ~$35-$40 to the manufacturer, giving a ~$25-$30 motherboard), GIGABYTE does not have a lot of room for additional controllers or upgraded audio.
The rear of the motherboard uses two separate PS/2 ports, a VGA output, a HDMI output, the sole USB 3.0 port from the SoC, four USB 2.0 ports, the gigabit Ethernet port and a trio of audio jacks.
|Chipset||Bay Trail-D Dual Core|
|Memory Slots||Two DDR3/L SO-DIMM slots supporting up to 8GB
Up to Dual Channel, 1333 MHz
|Video Outputs||VGA (2560x1600)
|Onboard Audio||Realtek ALC887|
|Expansion Slots||1 x PCIe 2.0 x1
1 x Mini-PCIe
|Onboard SATA/RAID||2 x SATA 3 Gbps|
|USB 3.0||1 x USB 3.0 (SoC) [rear panel]|
|Onboard||2 x SATA 3 Gbps
1 x USB 2.0 Header
2 x Fan Headers
1 x LPT Header
1 x COM Header
Front Audio Header
Front Panel Header
|Power Connectors||1 x 24-pin ATX
1 x 4-pin CPU
|Fan Headers||1 x CPU (3-pin)
1 x SYS (4-pin)
|IO Panel||PS/2 Keyboard Port
PS/2 Mouse Port
1 x USB 3.0
4 x USB 2.0
Realtek ALC887 Audio Jacks
|Warranty Period||3 Years|
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ddriver - Saturday, December 27, 2014 - linkWith 6 and 8 TB drives available, I'd say it would be ample for many users. It will still do more good than it would ever do as a gaming box.
Plus there is a PCI-E slot, not useful for a GPU, especially with such a weak integrated CPU, but you can plug in a HDD controller card, there are PCI-E x1 controllers with 2, 4 and even 6 SATA ports.
III-V - Saturday, December 27, 2014 - linkThe audience of this article is likely going to be able to relate most with gaming benchmarks. Also, have you no curiosity in how hardware like this is able to run modern games?
Pretty rude and shortsighted response.
ddriver - Sunday, December 28, 2014 - linkI bet everyone is wondering how good the product is at a task it is not intended for and will never be used at. That's like reviewing clothing based on the way it tastes.
ddriver - Sunday, December 28, 2014 - linkBTW I don't think it is very smart of you to call "smart and on the point" "rude and shortsighted" ;) If anything, it makes you rude and shortsighted, and also a hypocrite for calling others what you are...
Morawka - Sunday, December 28, 2014 - linkyou were rude, now hush and run along
Oxford Guy - Saturday, December 27, 2014 - linkWhat a product was intended for is one thing. Total/overall performance is another. If you're not interested in certain benchmarks that's your business.
XZerg - Friday, December 26, 2014 - linkNormally i would avoid cursing but after numerous attempts to provide feedback on stopping these retarded Load Delta Charts I have just lost it.
ian - seriously - grow a f**king blub in the brain and realize that the Load Delta Chart is absolutely f**king stupid - especially when you are reviewing a product where Idle numbers matter the most. Just go back to separate Idle and Load charts. Why is it just so f**king hard for you to realize that?!
Throwaway007 - Saturday, December 27, 2014 - linkI signed up just to say the same thing.
I bet Ian probably introduces himself on various dating sites as having a penile length delta of 2 inches.
Sounds like this man is hiding something.
BrokenCrayons - Tuesday, December 30, 2014 - linkI usually don't make comments, but lately it seems like this should be mentioned as much as possible. AT articles unceasingly flog OEMs for junk TN panels and the use of mechanical storage in an apparent attempt to change the direction of the industry. I think it's the responsibility of the readers to therefore repeatedly point out that delta charts for power consumption are not what we want.
I am glad there was at least a more reasonable PSU used in this review. 500 watts is a lot closer to what might be considered appropriate for low-consumption equipment than 1200, but the delta chart isn't just annoying, it's uninformative and utterly stupid. If you're going to be bothered with measuring idle and load wattage, why not just post the bloody numbers? I'm sure we, the readers, can handle a little bit of subtraction on our own if we want delta values. So yes, like in other recent articles, I completely support the posting of actual wattage values and +1 the carpet bombing of profanity in the post above as, at this point, earned and deserved.
ant6n - Friday, December 26, 2014 - linkIf it had 4 SATAs it could make a good file server.