The Ampere Altra Review: 2x 80 Cores Arm Server Performance Monsterby Andrei Frumusanu on December 18, 2020 6:00 AM EST
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As we’re wrapping up 2020, one last large review item for the year is Ampere’s long promised new Altra Arm server processor. This year has indeed been the year where Arm servers have had a breakthrough; Arm’s new Neoverse-N1 CPU core had been the IP designer’s first true dedicated server core, promising focused performance and efficiency for the datacentre.
Earlier in the year we had the chance to test out the first Neoverse-N1 silicon in the form of Amazon’s Graviton2 inside of AWS EC2 cloud compute offering. The Graviton2 seemed like a very impressive design, but was rather conservative in its goals, and it’s also a piece of hardware that the general public cannot access outside of Amazon’s own cloud services.
Ampere Computing, founded in 2017 by former Intel president Renée James, built upon initial IP and design talent of AppliedMicro’s X-Gene CPUs, and with Arm Holdings becoming an investor in 2019, is at this moment in time the sole “true” merchant silicon vendor designing and offering up Neoverse-N1 server designs.
To date, the company has had a few products out in the form of the eMAG chips, but with rather disappointing performance figures - understandable given that those were essentially legacy products based on the old X-Gene microarchitecture.
Ampere’s new Altra product line, on the other hand is the culmination of several years of work and close collaboration with Arm – and the company first “true” product which can be viewed as Ampere pedigree.
Today, with hardware in hand, we’re finally taking a look at the very first publicly available high-performance Neoverse based Arm server hardware, designed for nothing less than maximum achievable performance, aiming to battle the best designs from Intel and AMD.
Mount Jade Server with Altra Quicksilver
Ampere has supplied us with the company’s server reference design, dubbed “Mount Jade”, a 2-socket 2U rack unit sever. The server came supplied with two Altra Q80-33 processors, Ampere’s top-of-the-line SKU with each featuring 80 cores running at up to 3.3GHz, with TDP reaching up to 250W per socket.
The server was designed with close collaboration with Wiwynn for this dual socket, and with GIGABYTE for the single socket variant, as previously hinted by the two company’s announcements of leading hyperscale deployments of the Altra platforms. The Ampere-branded Mount Jade DVT reference motherboard comes in a typical server blue colour scheme and features 2 sockets with up to 16 DIMM slots per socket, reaching up to 4TB DRAM capacity per socket, although our review unit came equipped with 256GB per socket across 8 DIMMs to fully populate the chip’s 8-channel memory controllers.
This is also our first look at Ampere’s first-generation socket design. The company doesn’t really market any particular name to the socket, but it’s a massive LGA4926 socket with a pin-count in excess of any other commercial server socket from AMD or Intel. The holding mechanism is somewhat similar to that of AMD’s SP3 system, with a holding mechanism tensioned by a 5-point screw system.
The chip itself is absolutely humongous and amongst the current publicly available processors is the biggest in the industry, out-sizing AMD’s SP3 form-factor packaging, coming in at around 77 x 66.8mm – about the same length but considerably wider than AMD’s counterparts.
Although it’s a massive chip with a huge IHS, the Mount Jade server surprised me with its cooling solution as the included 250W type cooler only made contact with about 1/4th the surface area of the heat spreader.
Ampere here doesn’t have a recessed “lip” around the IHS for the mounting bracket to hold onto the chip like on AMD or Intel systems, so the actual IHS surface is actually recessed in relation to the bracket which means you cannot have a flat surface cooler design across the whole of the chip surface.
Instead, the included 250W design cooler uses a huge vapour chamber design with a “pedestal” to make contact with the chip. Ampere explains that they’ve experimented with different designs and found that a smaller area pedestal actually worked better for heat dissipation – siphoning heat off from the actual chip die which is notably smaller than the IHS and chip package.
The cooler design is quite complex, with vertical fin stacks dissipating heat directly off the vapour chamber, with additional large horizontal fins dissipating heat from 6 U-shaped heat pipes that draw heat from the vapour chamber. It’s definitely a more complex and high-end design than what we’re used to in server coolers.
Although the Mount Jade server is definitely a very interesting piece of hardware, our focus today lies around the actual new Altra processors themselves, so let’s dive into the new Q80-33 80-core chip next.
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Andrei Frumusanu - Sunday, January 3, 2021 - linkI actually did test those setups:
2S Q64-33 setup: 433.7 SPECint2017 - 341.7 SPECfp2017
Pyxar - Wednesday, December 23, 2020 - linkThis is cool and all but what could an arm processor server be used for? Aside from some linux compilations there isn't that much support for arm processors.
This is looking a lot like the early days of computing where BeBox was powered by PowerPC cpu, a system looking to find a niche that doesn't exist (yet). It was cool for it's time but very little demand for it.
mode_13h - Wednesday, December 23, 2020 - linkPretty much everything needed to run modern web services has been ported to ARM. I believe a number of high-profile sites are now using Amazon Graviton2, due to its pricing advantage.
As for client computing, the Pi has emerged as a basic, usable desktop platform.
mode_13h - Thursday, December 24, 2020 - linkAlso, a couple years ago, Nvidia announced support for their entire software stack on ARM host CPUs. So, I'd say it should also be a decent platform for machine learning, now.
Bytales - Wednesday, December 23, 2020 - linkYou should have tested some CPU mining bechmarks like Monero's randomX, Wownero's randomwow, Turtle's argon2id Chukwa v2, and DERO's AstroBWT. That would have been interesting as shieeet.
Miguelxataka - Sunday, January 3, 2021 - link7742 (15 months ago release) 225w 67.000 point passmark??? why?? 7702 200w 71.000 points passmark. With 7702 the comparision!!
7702 (200w) Zen 2 vs Ampere (250w). 20% less power consumption + with Zen 3 20% extra power consumption =36%?
Where are the power efficiency of the RISC/ARM processors here?
Rance - Friday, July 16, 2021 - linkFor the specjbb 2015 data, what was the baseline pagesize set to?
sunwins - Tuesday, October 12, 2021 - linkI guess the speccpu2017 test result is wrong.Maybe there were some problems such as bios version or speccpu software configuration.
AMD 7742 speccpu2017 intrate official value:353 per socket
AMD 7742 speccpu2017 intfp official value:270 per socket
INTEL 8280 speccpu2017 intrate official value:172 per socket
INTEL 8280 speccpu2017 intfp official value:141 per socket
Ampere Q80-33 offcial speccpu2017 intrate value:300 per socket
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